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The Argent Dragon 10-10-2007 10:21 AM

--=+ Ultimate 'Castle' Defense - WoW !
 
1919A4 mounted w/ Sokolov tripod adaptor...........(I need one of these)

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More pics ---> http://shoot1919a4.com/gallery/album01?page=14

And the blast shield is removeable.


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REV127 10-10-2007 10:41 AM

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Very cool, but why would you want to remove the shield?

The only practical objection to these I have is that aside from the belt feed system there isn't much difference between something like that and an FAL or other .308 battle rifle. I would tend to argue that the battle rifle is more useful because while you can reload the FAL or similar very quickly you can't move the 1919 very quickly so you lose your mobility edge. An RPD might be more useful and definately cheaper to feed.

What I like are blackpowder and pneumatic cannons. The rate of fire is low but the firepower is there. Load it with shot or shell of your choice, even specialty munitions. It's not ultimate castle defense but it does provide some unique capabilities. A coehorn mortar is another that would be very useful in defending a fortified farm or attacking a raider's stronghold.

The Argent Dragon 10-10-2007 10:56 AM

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REV,

I won't argue the mobility factor for carrying........but this 30-cal has a trailer which could be towed by an ATV. Great for someone with lots of land to defend.

I'll check into the RPD ~ any links ?

REV127 10-10-2007 11:09 AM

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That's kind of my point though, you don't need an ATV to move a .308. It looks like a heavy weapon, it'd be fun to own, but it isn't a heavy weapon. You could put a crank on it, but then again you can bumpfire most .308 battle rifles.

Here's a link to the RPD for sale.

http://atlanticfirearms.com/programm...asp?Prodid=391

World Guns doens't seem to be loading right now so you can get the specs from Wikipedia instead. Wolrd Guns no doubt has a much better article on it and there's a link to WG at the bottom of the wiki so try it later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPD_(weapon)

An RPK might still be more useful though, since it is easier to deal with drums and mags than belts.

The Argent Dragon 10-10-2007 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 771518)
...An RPK might still be more useful though, since it is easier to deal with drums and mags than belts.

The RPD drums are cheaper but the 'belts' could be cumbersome - lots of prep work needed before firing.......plus it takes time to reload if you don't have extra drums ready 2 go.

What would you look for that's comparable to the RPD / RPK but chambered in a heavier 7.62x54R or a 30-cal ???

I'm somewhat impressed by the DP-28 and the BREN but damn, they're pricey ! :banghead: .......I don't have $3k at my disposal and if I did I'd rather buy some GOLD + another gun.

REV127 10-10-2007 11:29 AM

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BetaCo makes a 100rd C-Mag for the M1A/M-14. $1,000-$1,500 for a good rifle and ~$350 for the 100rd drum.

A .308's a .308 though, even if it looks cool or has special collector appeal. Strictly as a practical defensive weapon you'd be better served with most any .308 battle rifle and its normal 20 and 30 round mags. I say this as somebody who'd love to flip an RPK or Vepr upside down on a mount and feed it off 75rd drums as a cool DIY machinegun emplacement.

The most useful feature of the 1919 on the wheeled mount is the gun shield, and only then if it is made from properly tempered steel. It brings a certain ammount of cover with it. How much that cover is worth once you lose all your mobility though is another matter. The .50bmg version of it would have a convincing argument to make, but thats going to run near $8,000 just for the belt fed rifle, never mind the mount.

Actually that is something else worth looking at, a .50cal rifle, even a single shot. That will give you some real thump in a package that is man portable at under 30lbs and fairly affordable all things considered. Failing that a .45-70 is nothing to sneeze at, either. There is no rifle armor you can wear and precious little you can hide behind that will save you from a .45-70 from Buffalo Bore and you get to shoot it out of a cool lever action cowboy gun.

The Argent Dragon 10-10-2007 12:47 PM

Re: --=+ Ultimate 'Castle' Defense - WoW !
 
M1A's & M14 seems a tad high for what you get but that's probably because I like my RPK setup with the accessory rails, longer barrel, bipod, etc.

What are your thoughts (or any other GIM'ers) on the FPK Dragunov Sniper Rifle ?

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/prog...asp?Prodid=112

REV127 10-10-2007 12:57 PM

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They aren't Druganovs, they're built on an AK action with a reciever more like an RPK. Doesn't matter though, they're good guns. Neither of these is really a "sniper rifle," they are more akin to a designated marksman's rifle. Soviet doctrine called for infantry armed with AK's to advance under the covering fire of DM's. Their DM's have some neat gear available to them like the so-called "sniper shields" which are something like the gunshield on the 1919 you posted but are made to protect the DM instead of a gun carriage. I like the caliber, unlike .308 AP is legal for 7.62x54r. I'd own one.

Krugerrand 10-10-2007 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 771567)
Failing that a .45-70 is nothing to sneeze at, either. There is no rifle armor you can wear and precious little you can hide behind that will save you from a .45-70 from Buffalo Bore and you get to shoot it out of a cool lever action cowboy gun.

Indeed! :D

http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot4.htm

crazychicken 10-10-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 771567)

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Actually that is something else worth looking at, a .50cal rifle, even a single shot. That will give you some real thump in a package that is man portable at under 30lbs and fairly affordable all things considered. Failing that a .45-70 is nothing to sneeze at, either. There is no rifle armor you can wear and precious little you can hide behind that will save you from a .45-70 from Buffalo Bore and you get to shoot it out of a cool lever action cowboy gun.

Buffalo Bore makes a 500 grain Full Metal Jacket round for the 45/70.

A whole lot of ooomph in a very handy package.

Don't knock it until you try it.

CC

Silver Spoon 10-10-2007 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by REV127 (Post 771472)

What I like are blackpowder and pneumatic cannons. The rate of fire is low but the firepower is there. Load it with shot or shell of your choice, even specialty munitions. It's not ultimate castle defense but it does provide some unique capabilities. A coehorn mortar is another that would be very useful in defending a fortified farm or attacking a raider's stronghold.

My uncle told me that one time when he was in Vietnam they were shoving bottles / cans / breaking chairs for the timber and putting them in the breach to use their artillery pieces as direct fire shotguns.

Now that would have sucked. What sucked more are the stories he'd only tell only after a few to many. :no_ma:


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